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Old 07-11-2005, 05:10 PM   #1 (permalink)
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PARTITIVE - PARTITIIVI

(It's one of the cases)

Now, this is an interesting case
If you want to make a partitive, you just add -a, -ä, -tä or -ta to the word. (We'll see about the rules a bit later).

Let's use the word 'talo' with the examples...
TALO means just a house.. or the house.
TALOA means kinda 'of the house'

(In arabic this would be same as the ending -an in fos7a)

you use partitive with verbs.. a word which is an object of action gets the ending -a, -ä, -tä or -ta.

you see,

Dog eats = koira syö
bread = leipä

Dog eats bread
Koira syö leipää

as "dog eats of a bread"

'leipä' is the object..i think you could say that you use a partitive if you do something to something. of course, not with sentences as 'i sit on a chair' as you don't really do anything to the chair

get it? ask if you didn't so i can try explaining more.

then the last case we're going to learn in this lesson..

The rules as i promised


Ending -a / -ä will be added if the word ends with a short vowel.

kirja - kirjaa
pääkaupunki - pääkaupunkia
talo - taloa
poika - poikaa
tyttö - tyttöä

Ending -ta / -tä will be added if the word ends with a consonant, diphtong, long vowel or two different vowels.

vastaus - vastausta
mies - miestä
tie - tietä
työ - työtä
kuu - kuuta

(but but but.. if the word is at least three syllables long, and ends with two different vowels, you can use the -a / -ä.. as radio - radioa instead of radiota.)

Ending -tta / -ttä will be added if the word ends with e.

lause - lausetta
kappale - kappaletta
virhe - virhettä


If the word ends with i, it's irregular and you have to learn the ending word by word, since it can be either -a, -ä, -ta or -tä.

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Partitive is used after numbers, or if you count something

three houses - kolme taloa (talo/a)
many men - monta miestä (mies/tä)
couple of weeks - pari viikkoa (viikko/a)
half of a day - puoli päivää (päivä/ä)

It is also used in greetings, as good morning etc.

good morning - hyvää (hyvä/ä) päivää (päivä/ä)
good weekend - hyvää (hyvä/ä) viikonloppua (viikonloppu/a)
welcome - tarvetuloa (tervetulo/a)

And as i said before, as an object of an action.

I eat you - Minä syön sinua (sinä/ua)

EXERCISE

Put the word into partitive..

- kissa
- mitta (deleting the consonant doesn't work with the partitive)
- tietokone
- rauha
- sauna
- suklaa
- mies
- nainen
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let me try this .. am sure i only have one word right , but i would like to see my chances .. i tried to read over and over .. it is very diffecult indeed .. but as i said , i will try :


- kissaa
- mittaa
- tietokonetta
- rauhaa
- saunaa
- suklaa ( am not so sure , i thought about adding a , but that would be so much A's in one word , so i guess it would be
- mies
- nainenta

Jonne ... if all of them were wrong .. don't think am stupid .. it is the first time i read this language .. i read the previous lessons but nothin seems to stick in my mind ..
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- kissaa
- mittaa
- tietokonetta
- rauhaa
- saunaa
- suklaa ( am not so sure , i thought about adding a , but that would be so much A's in one word , so i guess it would be
- mies
- nainenta
شاطرة very good. you did two mistakes. or should i say one.

SUKLAA- this is suklaata. it has only back vowels, so the ending has only them too.

NAINEN- this is irregular (yay). it is naista.

so only one mistake since you wouldn't have known about the irregular word
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wowwwwwwwwwwwwww ... thanks , i thought there would be one right word only
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wow very interesting lessons here, good job Jonne (pronouced Yonneh )
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yes , he is a very good teacher in both finnish ( suomi ) and Arabic
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haha, have you seen nana's comments on my posts about arabic ?

you'll both speak fluent finnish someday
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