Confusing sounds - Page 2

Jonne · 11-05-2005, 09:03 AM

I think most of the accents ignore the qaf or then change it to g. like in khaleeji, they say galb for qalb (an alb in egyptian).. some dialect(s) has it k too I think.. and it's still q in some, like in algerian i think.

Jonne · 11-05-2005, 09:03 AM

and about the british stop, i don't think it's found from standard language.

abu_dana · 03-23-2006, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Jonne

I think most of the accents ignore the qaf or then change it to g. like in khaleeji, they say galb for qalb (an alb in egyptian).. some dialect(s) has it k too I think.. and it's still q in some, like in algerian i think.

Thank you, Jonne
But this is not standard Arabic, right?

Asminha · 03-30-2006, 08:55 AM

In Standard Arabic, qaaf is qaaf

And as Jonne said, the way it's prunounced depends on dialects. In Morocco we say both qaaf and "g".

And abu_dana? Where have you been?

abu_dana · 03-31-2006, 01:09 PM

Salam, shu ahbarik, Asminha

I visited Jonne in North Pole, close to Finland, and came back with new avatar, I now look like an Eskimo

So, my other question is whether British stop is not correctly compared with Arabic hamza, in standard Arabic?

Or in colloquial Arabic? Which one do you mean, Jonne? Or both?

Thank you in advance, guys, for your help!

P.S. Actually, I see that Jonne said only about standard Arabic.

Jonne · 03-31-2006, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by abu_dana

Salam, shu ahbarik, Asminha

I visited Jonne in North Pole, close to Finland, and came back with new avatar, I now look like an Eskimo

So, my other question is whether British stop is not correctly compared with Arabic hamza, in standard Arabic?

Or in colloquial Arabic? Which one do you mean, Jonne? Or both?

Thank you in advance, guys, for your help!

P.S. Actually, I see that Jonne said only about standard Arabic.

I'm not so close to north pole

and

the hamza is very much the same as british glottal stop. It's the same in colloquial and formal language.

Asminha · 04-02-2006, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by abu_dana

shu ahbarik

I wanted to correct this small mistake, you have to put "khaa2" there not "7aa2"
==> Shu akhbarik
So you spean dialectal Arabic now?

As for hamza, Jonne answered and I agree with him.

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Asminha Administrator Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,778 Blog Entries: 1 Asminha is just really nice Asminha is just really nice	In Standard Arabic, qaaf is qaaf And as Jonne said, the way it's prunounced depends on dialects. In Morocco we say both qaaf and "g". And abu_dana? Where have you been? __________________ Speak Moroccan - Parlez marocain Moroccan Vocabulary - Vocabulaire Marocain Last edited by Asminha; 04-02-2006 at 07:39 AM.
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abu_dana International Forum Fan Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Qazaqstan Posts: 290 abu_dana is an unknown character at this point	Salam, shu ahbarik, Asminha I visited Jonne in North Pole, close to Finland, and came back with new avatar, I now look like an Eskimo So, my other question is whether British stop is not correctly compared with Arabic hamza, in standard Arabic? Or in colloquial Arabic? Which one do you mean, Jonne? Or both? Thank you in advance, guys, for your help! P.S. Actually, I see that Jonne said only about standard Arabic. Last edited by abu_dana; 03-31-2006 at 01:12 PM.
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