Lesson 4 - Page 2

abu_dana · 10-14-2005, 03:35 PM

Salam everyone,

Very good job Jonne! Barakallah! Also I noticed small typo in Hal Muhammaii faqir?
Should be may be "d" in stead of "i" right?

Very informative lesson this one is. Thank you Jonne.
I would also like to know when do you, guys, omit this "tanwinization" in modern form of speech?
I heard that if you want a special emphasis to be added to the word you would then attach "un" (tanwin damma) to its end. But otherwise, you simply don't use so much this "un" at the end of any word. I could be mistaken, though.

شكراً جزيلاً لكم

Jonne · 10-15-2005, 11:16 AM

I don't use any tanween at all, except fat7a one with expressions such as ahlan, shukran, jazeelan etc.

abu_dana · 10-15-2005, 12:29 PM

I do exactly as you say, Jonne, you do.
I don't use tanwinned endings so much either.
I just wanted to confirm from natural Arabic-speakers, what rule should we uphold here, right?
In some books it says you sometimes mention tanwins, especially "un" at the end of nouns. Sometimes you don't. I just wanted to know when you do and when you don't.

Jonne · 10-15-2005, 12:47 PM

Yes, tanweens are only used in fus7a. and my lessons are in fus7a.. so i'm using them

Jonne · 10-15-2005, 02:46 PM

BUT I think it's better to learn to speak fus7a first (with tanweens/nunations) and later some dialect.

abu_dana · 10-17-2005, 02:34 PM

Yes, I know, of course, Jonne, Fus7a is better it's more complicated form, we should go for it.
I just happen to know that you are from Finland, right?
Among many stories that I heard I was also told that Finns and Hungarians are somehow related to the Turkic languages, is that true?

Jonne · 10-17-2005, 06:35 PM

Yess I'm Finnish

But I don't think uralic languages are releated to turkic.

Here's a language map:

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abu_dana International Forum Fan Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Qazaqstan Posts: 290 abu_dana is an unknown character at this point	Salam everyone, Very good job Jonne! Barakallah! Also I noticed small typo in Hal Muhammaii faqir? Should be may be "d" in stead of "i" right? Very informative lesson this one is. Thank you Jonne. I would also like to know when do you, guys, omit this "tanwinization" in modern form of speech? I heard that if you want a special emphasis to be added to the word you would then attach "un" (tanwin damma) to its end. But otherwise, you simply don't use so much this "un" at the end of any word. I could be mistaken, though. شكراً جزيلاً لكم
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Jonne Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 994 Jonne came out of the blue	I don't use any tanween at all, except fat7a one with expressions such as ahlan, shukran, jazeelan etc. __________________ -Jonne Guess how to pronounce it
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abu_dana International Forum Fan Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Qazaqstan Posts: 290 abu_dana is an unknown character at this point	I do exactly as you say, Jonne, you do. I don't use tanwinned endings so much either. I just wanted to confirm from natural Arabic-speakers, what rule should we uphold here, right? In some books it says you sometimes mention tanwins, especially "un" at the end of nouns. Sometimes you don't. I just wanted to know when you do and when you don't.
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Jonne Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 994 Jonne came out of the blue	Yes, tanweens are only used in fus7a. and my lessons are in fus7a.. so i'm using them __________________ -Jonne Guess how to pronounce it
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Jonne Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 994 Jonne came out of the blue	BUT I think it's better to learn to speak fus7a first (with tanweens/nunations) and later some dialect. __________________ -Jonne Guess how to pronounce it
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abu_dana International Forum Fan Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Qazaqstan Posts: 290 abu_dana is an unknown character at this point	Yes, I know, of course, Jonne, Fus7a is better it's more complicated form, we should go for it. I just happen to know that you are from Finland, right? Among many stories that I heard I was also told that Finns and Hungarians are somehow related to the Turkic languages, is that true? Last edited by abu_dana; 10-17-2005 at 03:25 PM.
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Jonne Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 994 Jonne came out of the blue	Yess I'm Finnish But I don't think uralic languages are releated to turkic. Here's a language map: __________________ -Jonne Guess how to pronounce it
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