Lesson3 - Hamza, Definite Article, I3rab El Ism & Words - Page 2

Jonne · 08-16-2005, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Nana_Brazil

Note that the l of the article assimilates with these consonants:
ش س ر ز د ذ ت ث ن ل ظ ط ص ض
it means that if the word begins with some of these consonant, the l of 'al' becomes it.
Sun = shams شمس
a sun = shamsun شمسٌ
the sun = ash-shamsu (NOT al-shamsu.) الشمسُ
and as you can see, the look of the article doesn't change. only the pronounciation changes.

When you write "ash-shamsu" in arabic, you add shadda above the 'sh', and take the sukuun of l away.

Jonne- you mean when a word starts with one of those consonants, I take the letter ALIF + the first letter of the word I want to add the article (the)? Another thing... I have no idea about the words you gave us for exercises. Remember we do not have vocabulary yet. So please at least in the beginning add its transliteration and meaning.

I meant, when you want to add the article to a word that BEGINS with some of these consonants, you add SHADDA over the FIRST consonant of the original word.. as you can hear, it is doubled. you don't hear "ashams" but "ashshams". get it

?

Yeah I didn't include them, as you don't need them yet. Focus on writing, not understanding the words!
and bas, where do you need trasliterations

? I don't like giving them when teaching a language with different alphabet.

Jonne · 08-16-2005, 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Asminha

While passing by, I can at least tell you about the meanings of the words and their prunonciations:

Sanah =Year =سنة
رجل = Rajul = Man
Dhalaam = Darkness = ظلام
* Jonne, not sure what you mean by this, I find it may be an Egytpian slang for some school furniture! أستكة
إنسان= Insaan = Human
Qamar = Monn =قمر

thanks for translations yaa asma!
Astika, nope, it's not egyptian

mwahahaha such a mystery >)

Nana_Brazil · 08-17-2005, 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonne

I meant, when you want to add the article to a word that BEGINS with some of these consonants, you add SHADDA over the FIRST consonant of the original word.. as you can hear, it is doubled. you don't hear "ashams" but "ashshams". get it

?

Yeah I didn't include them, as you don't need them yet. Focus on writing, not understanding the words!
and bas, where do you need trasliterations

? I don't like giving them when teaching a language with different alphabet.

Yes, I got you. Thanks

Nani · 08-19-2005, 12:05 AM

i guess asma is right أستيكه is the egyption word for the word rubber in english ... do you have another meaning than that ya Jonne ???

allcolor · 08-19-2005, 05:06 AM

hi ,

the word in clasical arabic is : مَطَّاط I think if that what hamza mean
but this أستكة I never hear about it

Jonne · 08-19-2005, 05:59 AM

ah well yes ya nana and nadia, but it isn't egyptian. It's an eraser / rubber

Nani · 08-19-2005, 08:36 AM

i knew that this is what you mean

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allcolor anonymous Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: SOME WHERE IN THIS SMALL EARTH. Posts: 18 allcolor is an unknown character at this point	hi , the word in clasical arabic is : مَطَّاط I think if that what hamza mean but this أستكة I never hear about it
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Jonne Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 994 Jonne came out of the blue	ah well yes ya nana and nadia, but it isn't egyptian. It's an eraser / rubber __________________ -Jonne Guess how to pronounce it
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