Originally Posted by Nani

well Abu_dana , we also study it for 12 years at school and we don't use it at all LOL ...
As we agreed upon earlier that studying fus7a might be better because when you know fus7a things will be more clear to you .. and if you read Qura'n you can learn alot .. do u listen/read Quran in Arabic or in kazak language ? if not in Arabic, i would suggest you try to listen to it in Arabic and am sure you will have a clear idea .. also , hearing Quran in Arabic will teach you how to pronounce س , ص , ض,ظ ...

There are many good site for reading and listening to Quran at the same time over the net , i can recommend some if u want.

Originally Posted by abu_dana

Thank you, both Asminha and Salim.

One more question what I find very confusing in Arabic is how the imperative and jussive forms of Arabic verbs are formed.
Imperatives are commands, requests, as you well know, like:

Stand up! Sit down! Read! Write

Negative with imperative is formed even in more complicated way - in a separate form called imperative-prohibitive in Arabic Fus7a.

The rule is that you should add "Alif+hamza+damma" (damma only if middle sound vowel is expressed by damma) or add "Alif+hamza+kasra" (if the middle vowel is either kasra or fatha) and put sukkun over the top of the last letter. You do all these changes to present tense 3rd person masculine word (let's take word "write").

"He writes" - يَكْتُبُ

أُكْتُبْ for males

أُكْتُبِي for females

أُكْتُبَا for two persons

أُكْتُبُوا for many males (plural)

أُكْتُبْنَ for many females (plural)

To address to 1st and 3rd persons you should add "Lam+kasra=Li" in front of the word, which itself is a reduced form of present tense

لِنَكتُبْ for 1st person plural like "let's write!" (we go and write)

لِيَكتُبُوا for 3rd person plural like "let them write" (they go and write)

To negate add لا to the reduced form of the present tense

لا تَكْتُبْ - DO NOT WRITE!!!

So how can you negate all of below words here, just by removing "Alif+hamza" and adding "ta" and لا to the reduced form of present tense verb, but then my book doesn't give any table of conjugation of these reduced forms, it only gives imperative forms or jussives.

أُكْتُبْ for males

أُكْتُبِي for females

أُكْتُبَا for two persons

أُكْتُبُوا for many males (plural)

أُكْتُبْنَ for many females (plural)

I wonder if in dialects these things get as complicated as in Fus7a?

Ma3 salama!