Tagine Lover

salaam, im very interested to learn arabic in the moroccan dialect, if its not too much trouble. i think its a wonderful idea!

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Asminha

Okay tagine_lover, I guess I can do that in the Arabic room :-)

I took note of it, and I will start that as soon as I can.
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abu_dana

Well, I read this thread from the beginning to the end...
And you know what I find interesting is that some people say that Algerian accent is almost impossible to understand. I know one Egyptian engineer who says he would understand Morroccan better than Algerian. Is that true? They claim to have mixed with Berber languages, that's why?

xpsal

Algerian I guess is like moroccan, when I speak to an algerian I don't even try to simplify my conversation, because they understand us and we understand them, but maybe some places might be affected more with berber (kbayli...) so I don't know about that!

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Asminha

I agree with Salim, it's not a big deal to communicate with someone from Algeria, they also say labass I would even say that Tunisian accent is a bit closer as well.

As I always say, we Moroccans are able to understand all other Arabic accents in general, without much trouble as other seem to have while trying to understand us.

If you consider our dialect, you'll find that it mainly comes from fus7a, it's just that we prunounce words in a different way.

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abu_dana

Thank you, both Asminha and Salim.

One more question what I find very confusing in Arabic is how the imperative and jussive forms of Arabic verbs are formed.
Imperatives are commands, requests, as you well know, like:

Stand up! Sit down! Read! Write

Negative with imperative is formed even in more complicated way - in a separate form called imperative-prohibitive in Arabic Fus7a.

The rule is that you should add "Alif+hamza+damma" (damma only if middle sound vowel is expressed by damma) or add "Alif+hamza+kasra" (if the middle vowel is either kasra or fatha) and put sukkun over the top of the last letter. You do all these changes to present tense 3rd person masculine word (let's take word "write").

"He writes" - يَكْتُبُ

أُكْتُبْ for males

أُكْتُبِي for females

أُكْتُبَا for two persons

أُكْتُبُوا for many males (plural)

أُكْتُبْنَ for many females (plural)

To address to 1st and 3rd persons you should add "Lam+kasra=Li" in front of the word, which itself is a reduced form of present tense

لِنَكتُبْ for 1st person plural like "let's write!" (we go and write)

لِيَكتُبُوا for 3rd person plural like "let them write" (they go and write)

To negate add لا to the reduced form of the present tense

لا تَكْتُبْ - DO NOT WRITE!!!

So how can you negate all of below words here, just by removing "Alif+hamza" and adding "ta" and لا to the reduced form of present tense verb, but then my book doesn't give any table of conjugation of these reduced forms, it only gives imperative forms or jussives.

أُكْتُبْ for males

أُكْتُبِي for females

أُكْتُبَا for two persons

أُكْتُبُوا for many males (plural)

أُكْتُبْنَ for many females (plural)

I wonder if in dialects these things get as complicated as in Fus7a?

Ma3 salama!

Nani