bentayeb nacera

the past exists in our minds .the mind is the most important thing in us. we use it to be objective,isn't it? we have to learn from the past to live our present and be in peace in the futur.

dusio, you concluded by saying that"....,it is something that you cannot avoid..." why? this was done on purpose I think!

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nacera:

Shall I compare berberber to shining stars?
Thou art more friendly and more tolerate:
The friends do say the ideas of their minds
And me hath to say too in any date

dusio

It is something we cannot avoid, but it do not mean that it is objective. I'd say more: it is as subjective as it can be. Objective is only the present moment, the rest of our time ( if it exist... ) is just a part of our point of view, our memory, our hopes... Do you think that something from your past or something from your future exist now? I'm talking about the real, material existence. If not, it do not exist at all... Being is, nothing is not...

bentayeb nacera

Dear Dusio,
Have you seen the pyramids, they are past materials but they exist.So can you explain this for me?????

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nacera:

Shall I compare berberber to shining stars?
Thou art more friendly and more tolerate:
The friends do say the ideas of their minds
And me hath to say too in any date

dusio

I think you do not understand. We are talking about the time itself, a discrete concept, not the product of man of a precise period of time. Not at all.

bentayeb nacera

but time shows the fluent mouvement of our existence, time is related to man and his existence .so, why do we separate it from man then!do you take just what pleases you ideas.we should be objective.by the way if I didn't understand as you said ,I want to understand now

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nacera:

Shall I compare berberber to shining stars?
Thou art more friendly and more tolerate:
The friends do say the ideas of their minds
And me hath to say too in any date

dusio

Well, I just think that we should concentrate on the time itself, it's idea. Is it related to something/someone - it is just a subsidiary thing to ponder. Time is time and the matter is something else. Unless you think that time is material.