devanymfix

I forgive you

I too don't have many time to concetrate and talk, I say what I find in my mind in that moment and what I can express, but it's not a problem.

I feel like I just repeat what I say, because I didn't said that disorders are against humains nature, talking about Down syndrom people and about choice was not what I meant, it's not faire to compare these people with natural people, because they are not like us from the begining, from DNA (last time I wrote "ADN" French word for DNA =) )... they are not less than us, they are different. I talk about choice only and only when I talk about what we call normal people, people that don't have any disorders or don't have it anymor, not about people who have clear diferent DNA or clear psychological disorders or ... I was thinking that homo was an illness as you can clearly remember, and I was not ready to ask : why are you like this? because if it's beyond the normal then I don't have to ask, but after, I wanted to understand if there was an explanation...

I did not look for that, cause I believe until now in what you say, that homosexuality is not a disorder, so it's a choice then and still related to your mind, your mind is not only a machine that works the way it was born to, it's also what control all of you, if you want to...The religion is not a pure need, it's a choice, but we can't compare it to what we are talking about, because it's not about your body, it's about your faith and beliefs.. I mean there is nothing extra that impose me to be what I am in my personnality.

Every humain has got the right to be what he/she want to be.(in limits, that his right don't cross others rights...)

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dusio

Everyone can think whatever he/she wants. Let's just stop arguing, coz' we will never find a solution. It is all about our points of view. My is mine and your is yours. I respect your point of view on this case, and I would like you to respect mine. That's all I have to say for now. All in all - thanx a lot for this conversation. It was a lot of fun for me, and I hope you feel the same about it. Maybe you can work out a new topic? Or we can start to put some new arguments to this one from the very beginning ( but honestly, I do not see the point... ); Well...as you wish...

devanymfix

I have no objections if you want to be what you are or not, and I wouldn't as long as I am the same, because who I am to do such thing? I wanted more to understand your point of view.. that was my point, I was not having fun (fun for me is to laugh ) in the conversation but I was more discovering, and I like to discover, so it was amusing/"fun" (in your way).

Well, thanks for your conversation also for your time, and for what I knew from you and about you

And forgive me if I said something not suitable in all the conversation

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dusio

You did not say anything "not suitable". Not at all. Believe me.

Why this conversation was a fun for me? Well, coz' every conversation based on good arguments is a great "fun" for me. And it has also a didactic overtone, so the end product has got one more quality. And I believe it's good.

I can tell you that it is generally hard to understand me. It is all caused by my particular philosophy of my own existence. My sexual ideas are based on aesthetic prerequisites. I look on it from the position of an objective observer. I do not believe in love also. Something like this does not exist for me in way that people would like to see it. I think that real love can be connected only with the nonpresentational ideas such as subjective truth (there is no objective truth),knowledge, abstract perfection, etc.

Ok... now you will say: this is a real disorder !

So, do we have a new topic now?

devanymfix

Maybe I would not understand you at 100%, but if you understand yourself then that's good for me and wouldn't be viewed at least as a disorder, just don't tell me that you are like this and that's all, because it let me feel like if a person is condamned on being what he is, wich is not true for me, you see that you are what you are because of what you said/think, and that was a part of what I was looking for.

I dont have any topic in my mind for now, I think we should have a rest

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dusio

If you say so...

Heather77

Just because you have sex with a man or woman does not mean that he/she loves you. More often times than not, it is just for pleasure purposes. Other times its between a couple expressing feelings for one another. It depends on how and why you open your legs too.

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