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Old 10-08-2007, 07:53 PM   #386 (permalink)
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And, if it's about the wind itself - I can feel it !!! And do I feel god? Not at all...And the rest of your examples - it's all confirmed by the science. And what about god? Any reliable evidence? Bible? Written by the hand of a man...I do not see a true god in there...Illumination? The same story... faith is just a faith. It is not something as certain as we would like it to be. So, there is no proof beyond reasonable doubt in this matter. Questioning is "very" justified here.
Well, you see this is the point on which we will probably never agree. I feel God, daily and much more obviously and strongly than the wind and many other people do as well. Both those who believed in Him for years and even many of those who never heard of Him ever before.
You know there are people who do not have a sense of smell or taste, for them it just doesn't exist, so much so that they can not even imagine it. Color does not make sense to the blind for example. So the fact that you don't feel God and I do, only confirms a sensual handicap, not the fact of His nonexistence. Though I understand how difficult it can be from your viewpoint.
As far a science goes, state to me at least one discovery ever made that would prove God is not real or that the Bible accounts are in anyway false. Than we can discuss it. You know getting people to dig into and research what they always considered a fact and never bothered to check about, often makes them a very convinced believers, because they finally convinced themselves by really looking into the matter.
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Neither has it disproved the Giant Pommegranat theory nor
the Tooth Fairy or Ishtar or Thor. Does that mean they are ALL right ?
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Old 10-08-2007, 08:18 PM   #388 (permalink)
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Neither has it disproved the Giant Pommegranat theory nor
the Tooth Fairy or Ishtar or Thor. Does that mean they are ALL right ?
Why not? But none of them created the Earth or me nor present any personal interest to me. I think that's a point of difference.

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Can you prove they didn't ?
Of course you can't.
But you KNOW they didn't -just as I know your Mythical creature didn't !
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Old 10-11-2007, 09:40 PM   #390 (permalink)
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Long live BRIONON !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You are right!!! Just as I am
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Long live BRIONON !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You are right!!! Just as I am
oh! Dusio don't be proud to that point. since you and Brionon believe in what is proved I wonder if you can prove that God doesn't exist. by the way as long as one can live, he will die and meet the everlasting creator. death is certain since you beleive in man ,why can't man be an everlasting creature?all this because sthg behind!!!!! what is it? look for it then if you really want to prove that God doesn't exist.
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Well, first of all - The fact that I cannot prove that god exist is one of the main rationales.
The second thing is that u are right about one thing - we will all die - I agree, no doubt and so on... but to meet the creator? Do you think that the tooth fairy is real? The same is with god. There is no prove. Not even one.
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