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Old 09-27-2007, 09:27 PM   #344 (permalink)
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First of all, my response was short, but it is not because the subject is painful for me. Not at all. I just wanted to be precise. And the name of my dog is... DUSIO

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Old 09-28-2007, 11:48 AM   #345 (permalink)
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science, about human DNA and chromosomes
compared to religion.
Common sense says either Adam had sex with a daughter, Eve had sex with a Son, or a Daughter and Son had sex with each other. First there were only two, then three, but incest at some point in time would have been REQUIRED. Someone had to mate with a direct relative to keep it going. Yet we are now taught that incest is wrong, a sin.

We also know scientifically that inbreeding causes retardation, and birth defects. Maybe it was all those defective, retarded people who could not agree on a specific religion and so they created the various adaptations of what man "thinks" God wanted

if Adam and Ever were pure without defects, there would have been no temptation to take a bite.

If everything in our world is within the "Divine Plan" of God, then it is also a foregone conclussion that God planned for Eve to have temptations and to act upon them. If Eve had not taken the bite, and they still bore children, who were also blind, surely the inbreeding would have eventually resulted in birth defects.
but whether incest is a sin or not, it will still cause birth defects and intellectual disability it is proven!!

I mean the Bible might not be a fact at best, it provides a set of morals that we should all try to live by. However, too many people take the book as well as the religion to extremes and only believe what the text says, regardless of intelligence, common sense, or scientific proof.

And evolution so many people have proof of monkeys evolving into humans, what adam and eve were monkeys? i think not!!
If Evolution is true, then Adam and Eve looked like Monkeys, and if in God's image, so then is a God Monkeyish?
and ive been told that God created monkeys first before us and that is why there is Evolution. But werent adam and eve one of the first creations and the earth was empty, and if what i been told would be true wouldnt that make evolution yet again true??
Perhaps all those difficulties come from the fact that you "read" the Bible litterally - one can affirm, on the contrary, that the text is "métaphorique" (I don't know the English word), that it makes sense by images. Then, what appears ? Eve and Adam just embody the problem of Evil (a law you decide not to respect) - whatever their sons are. I also notice that you slide from "God" to "Jewish/Christian God", with the referency to the Bible. But God is a much larger concept : it has to be understood here ("Does God exist?") whatever the religion, just as the object of any faith. Then the question becomes : must we admit a higher entity to explain and justify ourselves and our acts?
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Old 09-28-2007, 12:04 PM   #347 (permalink)
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Born2Bfree ,I agree you were born to be Free-So why did you choose Chains ?
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Born2Bfree ,I agree you were born to be Free-So why did you choose Chains ?
I totally agree with you, Brionon - but the question is : how can we prove we are free? Free of what? And what do we have to do with this freedom? Besides, what kind of freedom is it? A believer won't agree he's enchained, on the contrary, he feels his faith as a way to shake his chains, as a salvation. An unbeliever would feel exactly the same, wouldn't he?
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you're mind was free -but you chose to accept the chains of religion,
why do you think bishop's carry crooks ? for their flock-- ie Sheep.
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you're mind was free -but you chose to accept the chains of religion,
why do you think bishop's carry crooks ? for their flock-- ie Sheep.
Sorry to appear unfriendly but someone has to help you.
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I don't need anybody to help me, thank you. Moreover, I assume we think the same...
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