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Old 09-26-2007, 10:21 PM   #330 (permalink)
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science, about human DNA and chromosomes
compared to religion.
Common sense says either Adam had sex with a daughter, Eve had sex with a Son, or a Daughter and Son had sex with each other. First there were only two, then three, but incest at some point in time would have been REQUIRED. Someone had to mate with a direct relative to keep it going. Yet we are now taught that incest is wrong, a sin.

We also know scientifically that inbreeding causes retardation, and birth defects. Maybe it was all those defective, retarded people who could not agree on a specific religion and so they created the various adaptations of what man "thinks" God wanted

if Adam and Ever were pure without defects, there would have been no temptation to take a bite.

If everything in our world is within the "Divine Plan" of God, then it is also a foregone conclussion that God planned for Eve to have temptations and to act upon them. If Eve had not taken the bite, and they still bore children, who were also blind, surely the inbreeding would have eventually resulted in birth defects.
but whether incest is a sin or not, it will still cause birth defects and intellectual disability it is proven!!

I mean the Bible might not be a fact at best, it provides a set of morals that we should all try to live by. However, too many people take the book as well as the religion to extremes and only believe what the text says, regardless of intelligence, common sense, or scientific proof.

And evolution so many people have proof of monkeys evolving into humans, what adam and eve were monkeys? i think not!!
If Evolution is true, then Adam and Eve looked like Monkeys, and if in God's image, so then is a God Monkeyish?
and ive been told that God created monkeys first before us and that is why there is Evolution. But werent adam and eve one of the first creations and the earth was empty, and if what i been told would be true wouldnt that make evolution yet again true??
Ok let start in the beginning. First of all both Adam and Eve were so to speak the "first models" and probably therefore possesed a very strong DNA. It is true that incest had to happen somewhere down the line, but it is not the only case mentioned in the Bible, what about Noah and the descendants, or Lot and his daughters? Sure it had been very strongly discouraged later in the law of Moses, but again probably because the "copies" were not having as strong of genes as the originals. Sorry for being so technical about humans, I like them very much, it's just for the sake of explanation.
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Second Adam and Eve where not pure at all, may be just physically a bit healthier and stronger, but otherwise just your average humans. The temptation, had actually nothing to do with sex, the serpent got them on pride, on "you will be as Gods" and they swallowed it.
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I agree with you about common sense, there are things in the Bible that obviously don't apply for today, but as I personally discovered they are mostly physical details. The Spirit of it still applies just as good and even from the oldest stories we can still get the good lessons for today, because the basic nature of mankind is mostly remaining the same.
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Now about evolution, I generally have hard time even talking without laughing.
There are way too many more disproofs of evolution than it's proofs. It became a religion of not believing in God. At least Eve wanted to be "like Gods", our own dear educational system is closing it's eyes on horrendous errors just to persuade us we want to be like monkeys. Even Darvin said on his death bed " I just can't find the proof" and no one since then did. Check out this subject a bit more and you will find out the same.
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Very good questions by the way. Fire away all you want. I honestly love it. Faith is like a metal, only weak one is afraid of being tried, strong one only becomes stronger. For me it's like a work out. What we are talking here about is just a theology so to speak, which is only a small part of one's reason for faith, the biggest deal is something no one can "preach" at you about. It's knowing personally for yourself that God is real by seeing His work in your life.
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science, about human DNA and chromosomes
compared to religion.
Common sense says either Adam had sex with a daughter, Eve had sex with a Son, or a Daughter and Son had sex with each other. First there were only two, then three, but incest at some point in time would have been REQUIRED. Someone had to mate with a direct relative to keep it going. Yet we are now taught that incest is wrong, a sin.

We also know scientifically that inbreeding causes retardation, and birth defects. Maybe it was all those defective, retarded people who could not agree on a specific religion and so they created the various adaptations of what man "thinks" God wanted

if Adam and Ever were pure without defects, there would have been no temptation to take a bite.

If everything in our world is within the "Divine Plan" of God, then it is also a foregone conclussion that God planned for Eve to have temptations and to act upon them. If Eve had not taken the bite, and they still bore children, who were also blind, surely the inbreeding would have eventually resulted in birth defects.
but whether incest is a sin or not, it will still cause birth defects and intellectual disability it is proven!!

I mean the Bible might not be a fact at best, it provides a set of morals that we should all try to live by. However, too many people take the book as well as the religion to extremes and only believe what the text says, regardless of intelligence, common sense, or scientific proof.

And evolution so many people have proof of monkeys evolving into humans, what adam and eve were monkeys? i think not!!
If Evolution is true, then Adam and Eve looked like Monkeys, and if in God's image, so then is a God Monkeyish?
and ive been told that God created monkeys first before us and that is why there is Evolution. But werent adam and eve one of the first creations and the earth was empty, and if what i been told would be true wouldnt that make evolution yet again true??
So, what is the conclusion? Any resolution?
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