ferenk

I agree. It's satisfying neither for the reason, nor the faith. Yet Pascal was "great" at both. For me it's the proof that only the unbelievers are able to speak of God's existence.

moon_dancer_withU

I've got an idea. It goes like this: what if those who belive in God and those who don't would actually get the same thing out of their convinctions, i. e. a logical meaning to life, a proper vision on the Universe, a constant philosophy to rely on?
Would this common ground manage to approach them, would it make them understand each others better?

dusio

A good question... We should consider this...

ferenk

Well, I'm not sure, if you consider that, through the question of death, it involves your whole vision of life. In a manner of speaking, things, facts, events, etc., are quite different, whether you believe or not.

dusio

If it's about Pascal's Gambit, it's much better for us to bet that the God exist than not to believe in it... why? The value of believing is bigger than the value of not believing. But remember that it is an expected value.

The Gambit is ok in some point, but it is not a true faith, it is a philosophical point of view... and to understand it better you should read Pascal's works...

I_notGenerous

Freud is not a Religious Theologist, to my understanding he is a Sociologist, Psychologist and the study of human behaviour.

Illusion accordingly to Psychiatric Nursing is misperception and misinterpretation of real external stimuli.

God is not a social and psychological construction. He is the Creator, the Almighty, the All Merciful. Not the future of an illusion. It is the fact that He is the AlMighty. Sorry, I have to quote from the Holy Quran, my belief:

Say: He is Allah, The One and ONly:
Allah, the eternal, Absolute;
He begetteth no, nor is he begotten
and there is none like unto Him (Ikhlas 112:1-4)

Two different things that matter: construct;constructor; construction; create;creator;creation:

Social and pyschology(cal) is an understanding of knowledge where we learn through the concept of scientific study of human behaviour.
You, too can observe and come up to many theories eg..like Freud. So, its up to us to construct our own conduct to reach our objective in living. We are the constructor and we represent ourselves to dignify this living. Not God...He is the Creator. I hope you got your understanding...thank you.

moon_dancer_withU

Oh, yes, death, that great leveler . Still, I don't quite understand why you brought it up in the context of this question. Could you elaborate your answer a little more?