giovannivalastro

My answer to this "quite difficult" question is:

When we see the ants we say "hey! it's an ant!". But when an ant look at us, we don't know what it's thinking about.

faraclit

I partly agree with you. People are able to adopt ideas according to their will. The existence of unbelievers is very normal in our religion, because we believe that the life is a kind of examination and belive that the Owner of the palace of the universe has bestowed lots bounties such as existence, life, our bodies, our ...everything. He tells this with his messengers to His guests... And He wants us to obey certain rules (which are good for our worldy life too) and He says that He will judge us and let us go to the eternity... So all the things in the universe are questions of this Great Examination..

See you in the eternity...

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skep07

faraclit,

Nice rationalization but your dog won't hunt.
Yau and those who agree with Yau are correct. No matter how convoluted and pseudo intellectual a bad science excuse for a misconception is…it is nevertheless…bad science. I read a reply by somebody princes where she misunderstood the question,..”can God build a rock so big he can’t pick it up?”. Is a loaded question which is meant to disprove an assumption by religious soothsayers centuries ago that the concept of omnipotence is a valid concept. The concept is invalid and the question is the proof.

Einstein said it best. After spending two hours trying to explain relativistic concepts to a science writer witnessed the frustrated writer place her pad and pen on her latp and ask with confusion…”Well, what is real then?”
Einstein realizing that further attempts to explain were fruitless said, and this is the answer about God or any other unproven idea conceived of mankind,
“Vell, I suppose zat fur mosd peoples, it ist a matter of perception, Ja?”

So God is real if you perceive God to be real and, for that matter, so is Spiderman., an honest politician, a dog with an elephant’s head and bible thumpers who will actually listen to a contrasting point of view. lol

faraclit

Can you think of a married "bachelor"?
No, because bachelor means "an unmarried male". this is an "empty set"(mathematical).
In theological paradigms "omnipotent" means "powerfull over all things" and having infinite power (acc. to common definition of infinity -there are other kinds of infinity-)
And no value, quantity can be more than infinite.
So "the set of rocks that can be more than God's power" is also an empty set.
Thank you for your patience for reading the message.

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crazy1

Hey,
This is a good disscussion question!

I belive that a higher being that exist but in my opinon he does not exist in the way we have been taught. Like with the bible and things. I also believe that any person could have written a book and said god said do this so i do believe in a higher being but not in the bible.

Christi

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Reema

faraclit

There are some proofs about Qur'an's being the word of God. Such as scientific facts which were very far away from the science of its era.
visit: Miracles of the Qur'an - Modern Science Reveals New Miracles of the Qur'an

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