pluiepoco

Time is conceptual, it's not true in logic.

Materially, time means ...second, minute, hour, day, month, year...
but actually when our ancestor invented time, He did not mean to tell a truth, but simply record what was going on at all! Then time is conceptual, as a rule of measurement on how fast the facts are going.

If we don't know what is time, it will not affect our ordinary life, nor our birth, death nor happiness.

Time is an Accuracy of Being.

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The_FD

I would have a slightly different point of view...

Time has not been invented, it has been discovered. Which make a huge difference.
By that I mean that what is conceptual is how we use to name and count time. Not the time itself.

Here is an example: even if humans were not existing, the Sun would have a certain rotating velocity and the light a certain speed and so on. We would not be here to measure and record how fast it is but nevertheless the time and the speed would exist.

So time is not conceptual but is physic constitutive existing thing.
What is a human point of view is how to name it and how to measure and count it

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pluiepoco

Sun does not mean time, Earth does not mean Human.

Time is discovered? Then it must existed long before human came to being on the Earth?

So Time must by invented by human, it must be later than human being!

Time is consequence of thinking, but not outcome of facts.

Time is with human, if you define time with objects as the Sun, Planet, Moon, such physical or chemical facts, it is not true!

Time must be meaningful with human thinking.

Time is produced by the human!

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The_FD

Nope the univers exited before humans were born!!
And to have a universe you need material... and in the univers we live in material comes with 4 measures: lengths: up down and deep, and time

Then you have a space with objects and positions and movemements. believe me molecules did not wait for humans to exist and move!!

What is conceptual is how we named it and how we represent it to give it some meaning to us, not their existence.

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pluiepoco

One lifetime in Human being could be one second in universe.

Then you can see time is imaginary and conceptual, it's comparative, just as a lifetime of turtle is longer than that of human being, but same as a lifetime.

A second can be a minute, an hour, or day or endless time meaurement.

The universe comprises not only molecules but also celestial bodies, which is known as microcosmos or macrocosmos. In the humanocosmos, time we produced is by ...second, minute, hour, day, month, year... but time in macrocosmos could be measured by century or millennium or larger stretches, then time in microcosmos could be by ....(I don't know the norms in physicsm but it's tiny in human's opinion)...

You can figure out how time is joking, because a so-called lifetime of molecule is incomparable to that of human, let alone that of celestial body, :P

So a second (we hereby do use the humanmade time-beings to be easy understood) means more to an insect than to human, because insect's life is shorter than human, and in one second the insect would complete maybe 1/100000 portion of its life, so that second = many seconds of human.
Alikely, one year of human life could be 1/100 of his lifetime, but 1 year is tiny enough to be omitted as to celestial evolution.

Time is comparative, because human invented it to record their own history and being.

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The_FD

Yes you are not talking of the time itself but of the code humans built to represent it.
This is totally different.
But don't mess up these to ideas.

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pluiepoco

Phenomena reflect time's nature, that is imaginary, not an existing thing.
Time is applied to human originally, but not to insects or celestial bodies, though it's well-known that time is imagined longer than human's history.
What's time? Time is the 4th dimension of the universe, but till now, everybody is made in 3 dimensions. The imagined one is very useful to our life.

But we are 3D beings. We think in 4D. Do you agree?

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