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Old 08-15-2009, 09:08 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Hi gosia..maybe I dont know much.but,I know that nobody is born with such disorders.The root cause of these disorders are over-anxiety,unnecessary stress n greed.And,these can be easily avoided.People have 2 know about their limits.Hence I still maintain my point.
And u say about life kickin' ur a#*,
well, I ask u.WTH do u know about life n its various struggles ? have u ever met real men n women who have braved every possible odd in their life n have emerged victorious..? U read 2-3 books on psychology n claim 2 know everything about the mind..?
I guess I was a lil' bit unpolite..pls dont mind..
Two or three books wouldn't let me to become a psychologist...

You claim you don't know much but you are quite sure about the "root cause" of mental disorders. Even scientists are still confused about the real causes of e.g. schizophrenia, depression, anxiety disorders or bipolar disorder. Do you know that such disorders ar always connected in some way with dysfunction of neuronal circuits and/or particular parts of the brain. And what about the hereditary probability of havin' ,let say, schizophrenia in one line with schizophrenic mother or father? What about the "greed"? And "unnecessary stress"? How do you underatnd it? Why do you put it in here?

I did meet a lot of people. I'm still workin' with woman havin' a severe major depression. She fights with it as much as she can, she have nobody to help her, no family, very dull and not well paid job. And she still stays on her way. Even if her life makes no sense for her. She takes pills. She's been 6 times hospitalized... And I think she is still victorious. She is tryin' not to die every day. All the time. Odds in her life? Her life is an odd for her.

I don't mine about what you're sayin' about me. You're free to say whatever you think. You cannot hurt my feelings or any sort of that. I don't mind knockers.
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Old 08-16-2009, 03:56 PM   #16 (permalink)
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well alexia,I never had anything easy in life..I had 2 struggle 4 everything.
And u talk abt depression.There r countless no of people who have faced much more terrible difficulties in life .
well I dont like 2 advise.but pls ......
Seeing ur posts in this thread..I feel the problem with u is "lack of inspiration".I guess u have never met or heard abt truly inspirational people.And crying is not bad.but if u cry 4 ten minutes,then u must take an oath never 2 let that happen 2 u again.And happiness is always within u.it will never come frm outside.U can have every damn thing in the w+hole w+orld and still be sad.Its an individual choice.U gotta learn 2 be happy n cheerful n slowly it becomes ur way of life.then u see,u will never ever make such posts.
I think everybody struggles in life for anything, even people who have things very easily, that's not about that kind of problems, you just don't get it.
What you mean by "lack of inspiration"? You don't know anything in my life to say that and you don't imagine what kind of problems I already had and still have. It's very easy to talk about other people and say this and that, but it becomes difficult when we don't understand!
Crying is not bad?! Hum... it depends. Crying of joy isn't, for example. I'm sure you don't know what cry because of your pain (in your heart) is. And I hope you'll never know how it feels like.
I agree when you say happiness is always within us, but we should find it first, and in certain cases it's very difficult.
I don't know what to say about "U gotta learn 2 be happy n cheerful n slowly it becomes ur way of life.then u see,u will never ever make such posts", it's just stupid, come with something better.
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Old 08-17-2009, 05:06 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Two or three books wouldn't let me to become a psychologist...

You claim you don't know much but you are quite sure about the "root cause" of mental disorders. Even scientists are still confused about the real causes of e.g. schizophrenia, depression, anxiety disorders or bipolar disorder. Do you know that such disorders ar always connected in some way with dysfunction of neuronal circuits and/or particular parts of the brain. And what about the hereditary probability of havin' ,let say, schizophrenia in one line with schizophrenic mother or father? What about the "greed"? And "unnecessary stress"? How do you underatnd it? Why do you put it in here?

I did meet a lot of people. I'm still workin' with woman havin' a severe major depression. She fights with it as much as she can, she have nobody to help her, no family, very dull and not well paid job. And she still stays on her way. Even if her life makes no sense for her. She takes pills. She's been 6 times hospitalized... And I think she is still victorious. She is tryin' not to die every day. All the time. Odds in her life? Her life is an odd for her.

I don't mine about what you're sayin' about me. You're free to say whatever you think. You cannot hurt my feelings or any sort of that. I don't mind knockers.
that's precisely what I am saying.The will 2 live is always stronger than dying.
I appreciate that woman 4 her attitude.hope she becomes well soon enough
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Old 08-17-2009, 05:13 AM   #18 (permalink)
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I think everybody struggles in life for anything, even people who have things very easily, that's not about that kind of problems, you just don't get it.
What you mean by "lack of inspiration"? You don't know anything in my life to say that and you don't imagine what kind of problems I already had and still have. It's very easy to talk about other people and say this and that, but it becomes difficult when we don't understand!
Crying is not bad?! Hum... it depends. Crying of joy isn't, for example. I'm sure you don't know what cry because of your pain (in your heart) is. And I hope you'll never know how it feels like.
I agree when you say happiness is always within us, but we should find it first, and in certain cases it's very difficult.
I don't know what to say about "U gotta learn 2 be happy n cheerful n slowly it becomes ur way of life.then u see,u will never ever make such posts", it's just stupid, come with something better.
May ur problem be anything.I would never ever advocate suicide as an option. but u gotta be grateful 2 things around u."I mean 1.u r alive 2.u can speak,read n write 3.u r not handicapped...small things like these make a gr8 difference 2 ur level of well-being.
And when I say "U gotta learn 2 be happy n cheerful n slowly it becomes ur way of life.then u see,u will never ever make such posts".-- it will not make sense now,but when u get older,u will definitely understand what it means.
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Hi.

I've been away for awhile and BAM - a nice conversation have started.

Um... Well I wasn't starting a discussion about suicide itself, but more about religious aspects. But the hell with it - it's "good" too

I've never met a person who wanted to commit a suicide, so I don't really know what is prompting her/him to do it.

DUSIO - I do realize that we have self-preservation instinct and that it's just fucking strong. That's why someone fighting with it must be really desperate or have big mental issues. I just think that suicide itself is stupid. Never said that people who commit it are.

RAKESH.R - Wow man, you sound like an incurable optimist. Learning "2 be happy n cheerful" is just not enough you know. Although I consider myself as an optimist, you got to realize that life's a bitch and even people living this "happy n cheerful" way can one day break down. Nothing is that simple.

sajalarora - Well I wouldn't call a person with some mental issues an "Idiot"... And it's not a good idea to talk about history, because I could as well tell you, that if you want to know what struggling is, you should study Polish history in i.e. II WW period.
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Hi.

I've been away for awhile and BAM - a nice conversation have started.

Um... Well I wasn't starting a discussion about suicide itself, but more about religious aspects. But the hell with it - it's "good" too

I've never met a person who wanted to commit a suicide, so I don't really know what is prompting her/him to do it.

DUSIO - I do realize that we have self-preservation instinct and that it's just fucking strong. That's why someone fighting with it must be really desperate or have big mental issues. I just think that suicide itself is stupid. Never said that people who commit it are.

RAKESH.R - Wow man, you sound like an incurable optimist. Learning "2 be happy n cheerful" is just not enough you know. Although I consider myself as an optimist, you got to realize that life's a bitch and even people living this "happy n cheerful" way can one day break down. Nothing is that simple.

sajalarora - Well I wouldn't call a person with some mental issues an "Idiot"... And it's not a good idea to talk about history, because I could as well tell you, that if you want to know what struggling is, you should study Polish history in i.e. II WW period.
Oj, my Polacy... biedni, uwikłani w martyrologię winy i upadku... Czy to zbliżająca się rocznica II W.Ś. tak działa, czy też może każdy obywatel PL jest wiecznym dziecięciem okupacji, bo ma to po prostu we krwi? To nie żadna krytyka, ot, moja wolna refleksja nt. tego, że Polacy nie potrafią obejść się bez "brzemienia swojego krzyża"... Czy wiecznie będziemy cierpieć za "milijony"? Czy nadal będziemy wspierać naszą kulturę retrocmentarną pamięcią o tym, co fatalne, złe, podłe, zamiast starać się skoncentrować na przyszłości, zapomnieć o wyidealizowanym obrazie narodu wybranego wciąż narażonego na ciosy od losu? Dlaczego wspominam o tym? Otóż, fragment:"if you want to know what struggling is, you should study Polish history in i.e. II WW period" to nic innego jak "duma z upadku" i ciągłe odgrzebywanie ran po to by na nowoż rozjątrzone nie dały o sobie zapomnieć pochłaniając całą polską energię... jak mamy budować przyszłość, kiedy przeszłość przemawia przez nasze (wciąż jeszcze nieobecne?) "teraz"? Pozdrawiam.
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