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Old 02-21-2006, 03:49 PM   #29 (permalink)
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I'm an aethiest, for me that means abstaining from all spiritual belief. I do not for example believe any of the creation stories, final judgement, reincarnation, life after death etc. However there are also some aspects of religion I like or can at least respect i.e. moral values (not that I follow them) and discipline as well as compassion. But I don't think for a second that this makes me religious or attatches me to a religion because to belong to a religion you seem to need faith in something not quite physical. I'm not talking about something in the conscience or spirit or anything but a belief in (i'm sorry for anyone here who is a believer) a story of a higher being. The fact there is and will never be any 'proof' of the being requires some faith from the followers and it's that i'm not willing to give. Hoped i've helped with the definition guys see ya
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Well anything,

Modern religious thinkers and philosophers are far from the question of supra natural power. They no longer "seem to need faith in something not quite physical" as you said.
They just bring their knowledge on modern society and concerning several actual and hardly discussed questions. Moreover they often enlight their thoughts with ancient texts and decads of reflections and centuries of cultures. They may remember us thinkings which we may have forgotten, looking in the past often gives valuable argments.
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. . . to belong to a religion you seem to need faith in something not quite physical.
The discussion of religion seems to hinge on what we believe God is. For some 'our father in Heaven', for some a Force rather than a person, for some an abstract quality like love or goodness or light, for some nature, for some a cosmic consciousness, and many more concepts. I have no firm beliefs, but know that the human race is still ignorant of much - there is mystery still undiscovered. My experience tells me that there is more than we know, and I 'worship' the ideals I have for living, ideals beyond my reach but to which I aspire!
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true, that's well put
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I might be wrong, but from what I have read here and what I have seen in many people self-called Atheists, it's basically about being Atheist from the Semitic religions point of view, that is, an Atheist in Catholic world would be someone who doesn't believe in THAT God, but maybe that person does believe in another god... And that reflects perfectly the Buddhist Attitude. They do believe in different gods (according to local zones, beliefs, rituals), but a Buddhist doesn't believe in an Almighty and creator God, as Jews, Muslims and Christians do.
And that's illustrates my case. I don't believe in the god depicted by Christians, with plenty human features (love, compassion, hatred, anger, desire, susceptibility to prayers and sacrifices, etc; although I do not deny the possibility for some of those features being present in animals, as well), and when I try to explain what I do believe in to them, they say:"Ok, but that's not God, because the Bible says..." so? I'd rather call myself as an Atheist.
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I think atheism is a religion. REligion is the fact that people believes in God. Atheism is the fact that people believes that god doesn't exist. It's not prooved so I think it's only a conviction and not a real fact.And religion is opposed with scientific proof. So i think atheism is a religion. But atheism is different from agnosticism, which means that people doesn't believe something. They just say that they don't know.
I hope that my explanation is comprehensible.
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Science tries show us how things are being, becoming, what becomes after another; but can we say that they are the products of just coincidences?

If we were tiny creatures on a flat surface and we could not understand the third dimension, if we thought two dimensional, and if a person stars to shoot on the surface and make the holes in a certain order, wouldnot we think that the preceding holes made the latter. If we understood the rule of the sequence, we could predict the time the following hole (circle) will appear. We could do this for any of the oncoming circles. the science is all about this.

My signature explains this very well.

for further investigation, I recommend you the Twenty Third Flash from the Risale-i Nur Collection, which is available on the internet.
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