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WHAT DOES FRIENDSHIP MEAN TO YOU?



Friendship to me means wanting to give more than you receive.
Wanting to share whatever you can to make someone's life easier.
If you have a whole donut and your friend has none, it means sharing your donut, even though you may still be hungry.

Friendship means giving love. It means saying I'm here for you.
It means sharing not only the good times, but the painful times in another's life, too.
Friendship also means being able to silently stand there and lending a shoulder of strength.

Friendship means trust.


Friendship means unconditional acceptance, regardless of race, creed, religion, handicaps or background.

Friendship means helping ease the loneliness in life.

Friendship means saying hello, giving a smile, sharing hope.


Friendship means being able to laugh together,
to cry together, to pray together.

In the cyberworld, as in our daily lives, friends may come and go. Sometimes you are betrayed by those you trust. Take from your friendships and memories the good, keep them close, and discard the unpleasant, painful memories. To quote a trite old phrase, "ships that pass in the night" is what we essentially are in each others lives - each with a purpose for a particular time. Be guarded in your friendships, however, especially in the cyberworld. Many people live in fantasy worlds and it is best to keep those relationships in that concept - allow them to be what they "want to be" rather than what "you would like them to be." Enjoy the fun, the friendship, and take it with a grain of salt. And, enjoy those friendships that are sincere and lasting - a true friendship is a treasure for life

في زحمة الحياة تجاهل بعض الناس الصداقة التي تعد من أهم الروابط الأخوية، والاجتماعية، وتلوثت الحجج، وتكاثرت المبررات، وندر أن تجد الصديق الصادق الوفي المخلص.. لقد أصبح نادراً في هذا الزمان الذي طغت فيه النواحي المادية على النواحي المعنوية، فالصداقة تجمع النفوس الصافية التي تسكنها مشاعر الأخوة، وتداعبها ذكريات شيقة، وحنين إلى تلك الأيام الماضية التي عاشها الأصدقاء بكل مافيها من مواقف متعددة، وأحداث لاتزال راسخة بعقل الأصدقاء..يقول الشاعر هادي بن حمد القحطاني:

معنى الصداقة صدق بين الرفاقه

أصدق وصادق من خيار الرجاجيل

أصدق مع الطيب وكون علاقه

عنوانها طيب وفا دون تظليل

والا الردي يازين والله افراقه

لايوفي المدة ولايعدل الميل

والصداقة المخلصة هي البلسم الذي لا يستطيع بحال من الأحوال الاستغناء عنه، فقد قال المأمون في وصف دقيق عن الأخوة والصداقة(الإخوان ثلاثة أحدهم: مثل الغذاء لايستغنى عنه، والآخر: مثله مثل الدواء يحتاج إليه في وقت دون وقت، والثالث: مثله مثل الداء لا يحتاج إليه قط).

ومن أهم صفات الصديق عند اختياره أن يكون صادقاً، ولا ينكر الجميل، ولا يجحد المعروف، ولايتغير مع الزمان، ويكون عوناً بعد الله - عز وجل -عند الحاجة، وعند اختيار الصديق يجب أخذ الحيطة والحذر من الاغترار في البداية بصحبة أصحاب الكلام المزيف، وحذار حذار من رفقاء السوء لأن صداقتهم سوف يحصل بعدها ما لا يحمد عقباه..وعن أنواع وصفات الأصدقاء يقول الشاعر سالم مهاوش الحربي:

بعض المعادن لايهمك بريقه

اللي تغرك لمعته بالبدايه

واللي يبي يختاره منكم صديقه

ترى صديقه من صدق له برايه

اللي بتوجيهه ينور طريقه

ويعلمه كانه عن الدرب تايه

وياقف معه بالحال في وقت ضيقه

إليا قلوا أصحاب السعه بالنهايه

ومن المؤسف أن يكتشف المرء ذلك الصديق الذي لا يعي معنى الصداقة بكل ما فيها من معان سامية وأهداف نبيلة..وكم هو مؤلم عندما تكتشف ذلك الصديق ذا الأخلاق الممزوجة بالحقد والكراهية والكذب، وما أصعب أن يكون صديقك الذي تثق به يسعى لمصلحته، ويلتصق بك من أجل الوصول لأهداف معينة، ويتظاهر بأنه وفي وهو في الواقع مخادع، ويظهر لك الإساءة في الخفاء كما يقو الشاعر مفضي بن ولمان الأحمدي:

ياحمود يظهر لك صديق من القوم

ويظهر من الربع الموالين عدوان

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to me ,friendship means to share ,to care and to trust
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Old 08-06-2006, 04:55 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Hey blsam, This is a very nice thread, thanks for writing it
Friendship is a very special word for me, I never call someone a friend from knowing them or just being with them at school, I'm really so picky when it comes to friendship, coz when u say that someone is your friend then u have to treat this one as a friend and expect to be treated as so, friendship can never be from one side, two people should form it, so you know, not anyone can be called a friend.

Friendship is the backbone of life Real friendship? well, this is not a common one, though it DOES exist, and there are friends that can be called real friends who value friendship, actually there are some kinds of friendships that should exist in everyone's life, that is .. other than common friendship, you can have special kinds friendships that can make your life such a great one, like for example, being a friend of your parents, just imagine being a friend with them and how easy life can be if you can understand each other and talk to each other as friends, this applies to your siblings too, and in my point of view, the most important friendship, is the friendship between you and your loved one, this kind of friendship can make your life very great, it's the key to having a stable nice life and an ever happy future.

woah! O_O I wrote sooo much!
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Old 08-06-2006, 12:39 PM   #4 (permalink)
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many thanks friend EternalSpark and friend monia about your quick answer and your quick Participation in this subject . this means you are understand me . and in other chose this means i have realy chose the good subject that we are the Discussion Between us .
How can we find true friendship in this often phony, temporary world? Friendship involves recognition or familiarity with another's personality. Friends often share likes and dislikes, interests, pursuits, and passion.
How can we recognize potential friendship? Signs include a mutual desire for companionship and perhaps a common bond of some kind. Beyond that, genuine friendship involves a shared sense of caring and concern, a desire to see one another grow and develop, and a hope for each other to succeed in all aspects of life. True friendship involves action: doing something for someone else while expecting nothing in return; sharing thoughts and feelings without fear of judgment or negative criticism.
True Friendship - Relationship, Trust, Accountability
True friendship involves relationship. Those mutual attributes we mentioned above become the foundation in which recognition transpires into relationship. Many people say, "Oh, he's a good friend of mine," yet they never take time to spend time with that "good friend." Friendship takes time: time to get to know each other, time to build shared memories, time to invest in each other's growth.
Trust is essential to true friendship. We all need someone with whom we can share our lives, thoughts, feelings, and frustrations. We need to be able to share our deepest secrets with someone, without worrying that those secrets will end up on the Internet the next day! Failing to be trustworthy with those intimate secrets can destroy a friendship in a hurry. Faithfulness and loyalty are key to true friendship. Without them, we often feel betrayed, left out, and lonely. In true friendship, there is no backbiting, no negative thoughts, no turning away.
True friendship requires certain accountability factors. Real friends encourage one another and forgive one another where there has been an offense. Genuine friendship supports during times of struggle. Friends are dependable. In true friendship, unconditional love develops. We love our friends no matter what and we always want the best for our friends.

So how do you know if you are real friends or just simple friends?


A simple friend has never seen you cry.

A real friend has shoulders soggy from your tears.


A simple friend doesn't know your parents' first names.

A real friend has their phone numbers in his address book.


A simple friend brings a bottle of wine to your party.

A real friend comes early to help you cook and stays late to help you

clean.
A simple friend hates it when you call after she has gone to bed.

A real friend asks you why you took so long to call.


A simple friend seeks to talk with you about your problems.

A real friend seeks to help you with your problems.


A simple friend wonders about your romantic history.

A real friend could blackmail you with it.


A simple friend, when visiting, acts like a guest.

A real friend opens your refrigerator and helps himself.


A simple friend thinks the friendship is over when you HAVE an argument.

A real friend calls you after you had a fight.


A simple friend expects you to always be there for them.

A real friend expects to always be there for you!


Now don't get me wrong, it's good to have simple friends, as they are fun and offer another network of people to socialise with.

البعض نحبهم ///
The some likes them
لكن لانقترب منهم ........ فهم في البعد احلى
To is their blessing does not get close ........ understanding in the distance become beautiful
وهم في البعد ارقى ... وهم في البعد اغلى
They in the distance charms… and they in the distance valuable

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والبعض نحبهم
and The some likes them
ونسعى كي نقترب منهم
Ironing seeks their blessing get close
ونتقاسم تفاصيل الحياه معهم
Details divide ths life with them
ويؤلمنا الابتعاد عنهم
Hurts us the moving away about them
ويصعب علينا تصور الحياه حين تخلو منهم.
Becomes difficult on us envisioned the life when disappears from her

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والبعض نحبهم
and The some likes them
ونتمنى ان نعيش حكا يه جميله معهم
Wishes to his cuts live of beautiful with them
ونفتعل الصدف لكي نلتقي بهم
Industrializes the coincidences industrialize lacs they meet in

ونختلق الاسباب كي نراهم
Fabricates the reasons fabricate ironing to see them
ونعيش في الخيال اكثر من الواقع معهم ..
Lives the horseman lives in more than happening with them
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والبعض نحبهم
and The some likes them
لكن بيننا وبين انفسنا فقط فنصمت برغم الم الصمت
To is between us and between ourselves only so become quiet in spite of pain of the silence

فلا نجاهر بحبهم حتى لهم لان العوئق كثيره
So their grain does not scream in until for they for that the obstacles is many his

والعواقب مخيفه ومن الافضل لنا ولهم ان تبقى
The consequences the consequences is frightening his and from from generous for us and for they for they to stays

الابواب بيننا وبينهم مغلقه...
The doors between us and between them locked his
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والبعض نحبهم
and The some likes them
فنملا الارض بحبهم ونحدث الدنيا عنهم
So their the land fill up in grain and the life happens about them
ونثرثررر بهم في كل الاوقات
They in all times gossip in
ونحتاج الى وجودهم ....كالماء ..والهواء
Needs needs to and their downpour….As the water. 22#.[w] the air

ونختنق في غيابهم او الابتعاد عنهم .......
Suffocates their absence suffocates in or the moving away about them

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والبعض نحبهم
and The some likes them
لأننا لا نجد سواهم
because we have no find other them
وحا جتنا الى الحب تدفعنا نحوهم
and Need us the love Pulls us Their manner


فالا يام تمضي
The days passes
والعمر ينقضي
The age elapses
والزمن لا يقف
The time does not stand
ويرعبنا بأن نبقى بلا رفيق
Fears fears to companion stays with no
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والبعض نحبهم
and The some likes them

لان مثلهم لا يستحق سوى الحب
For that their examples the grain does not deserve apart from

ولا نملك امامهم سوى ان نحب
Nor their Imam possesses apart from to likes
فنتعلم منهم أشيا ءجميله
Learns their blessing learns his things of beautiful
ونرمم معهم اشياء كثيرة
Repairs with them many things
ونعيد طلاء الحياه من جديد
Returns coat of the life returns once again
ونسعى صادقين كي نمنحهم بعض السعادة
Seeks seeks truthful ironing grants them some happiness

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والبعض نحبهم
and The some likes them
لكننا لانجد صدى لهذا الحب في
قلوبهــم
To was to echo upholsters consequently the grain in
Their hearts

فننهار و ننكسر
و نتخبط في حكايات فاشله
So collapses and breaks breaks
Stumbles tales stumble in so paralyzes him

فلا نكرههم
ولا ننساهم
ولا نحب سواهم
ونعود نبكيهم بعد كل محاوله فاشله
So does not force them
foget the;
Nor likes without them
Accustoms cries them after all his trier failing


I hope is this q good trqnslqtion in this poeeme arabic is hard real but i have find a big happing to do this for this good friend


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Old 08-06-2006, 05:43 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I just wanted to drop a line to say that I read all this thread, and since it said everything, I don't have much to add.
Much of what you said guys is very meaninful, and I loved so many parts that quoting them will make my post -meant to be short, as I want just to pass by- get longer.

I liked that distinction between degrees of friends: ones who are like air, that you need all the time. Ones that are like medicine, that you need from time to time. And those who are like a disease, that you never need. Very impressive, and better said in Arabic.

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In the cyberworld, as in our daily lives, friends may come and go. Sometimes you are betrayed by those you trust. Take from your friendships and memories the good, keep them close, and discard the unpleasant, painful memories
Oh yeah? You think? I don't agree with that point. When someone has done something bad to you, why keep them in your mind anymore? Why would you try to keep good memories of someone who hurt you? No thanks, better discard the person herself from your life.

Like EternalSpark, I do not call anyone friend. I would even say that no one at school is a friend of mine. They are just people I meet when we had courses together, and not much shared in common outta that.
And yes, when you call someone a friend, you do have expectations, and I guess that it's fair after all. Expectations to at least be treated as a friend too.
And I agree too for the other point you talked about.
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سلام الله عليكم اختي
اريد ان اشكرك على مداخلتك الجميلة وارجو من الله التوفيق لنا ولك
انما هده مشاركة جميلة

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Hi.
- How are you?
- A bit lost.
- Why do you feel bad?
- Life. I don't know what to do...
- Wait, you don't realise still the chance you have. Hear very well what I'm gonna say to you. I know what your situation is. You're always upset for nothing. I'm gonna say you that. I know some guy who has a real problem, him. He's ill. He must take medecine to survive. Yes, to survive. And even if he doesn't stop to, he's not sure to get out of... So your mood... Shake your body... You are very as fit as a fiddle. You see, if you wanna run, you can. If you wanna buy the last song from the charts, you can. If you wanna go to the restaurant, you can. Briefly, you have everything you want, health, money, job... I stop here the list.

- Salut.
- Comment ça va ?
- Un peu perdu.
- C'est quoi qui te chagrine ?
- C'est la vie. Je sais plus quoi faire…
- Attends, tu ne réalises toujours pas ta chance. Écoute bien ce que je vais te dire. Ta situation je la connais. Tu t'inquiètes toujours pour rien. Je vais te dire. Je connais quelqu'un qui lui a un vrai problème. Il est malade. Il doit suivre un traitement pour survivre. Oui, pour survivre. Et encore, même s'il ne l'arrête pas, il n'est pas sûr de s'en sortir. Alors tes humeurs...

Self-Disclosure builds friendships.

Self-disclosure is usually the first step in establishing a confidant. And it is scary because of the potential rejection factor. Do it anyway!

Start by sharing a few private thoughts and/or feelings with one person you might want for a close friend. If the person is responsive, he/she will usually share a personal thought or two with you.

If he/she is not responsive to your overtures, don't think of this as a rejection.People may be non-responsive for reasons of their own or merely as a perception of yours. Nevertheless, they can't be rejecting you because they don't even know you yet.

Listening and acknowledging builds friendships.

Often when your child, lover/partner, or friend tells you a story or voices a complaint, he/she is just asking for acknowledgment.

This does not mean that he/she wants agreement or compliance; it merely indicates a desire to be heard and understood.

Try these three steps to acknowledgment:

1. Repeat back.
2. Don't invalidate.
3. Don't try to change.
4. Don't problem solve.
Many conflicts in your personal relationships can be avoided if you will take the time to acknowledge other's feelings and points of view. For more information about acknowledgement, click here.

Listening and attending builds friendships.

Paying attention to someone is called "attending." It means that your ears, your eyes, your body and your feelings are all focused on that person at one time. Attending is a very important part of any relationship. It includes:

1. Being there physically
2. Focusing
3. Eye contact
Looking at and focusing on another person shows that you are "there for him/her." For more information on attending, click here.

Talking Is a Primary Building Block of Friendships.

Talking is an integral component of friendship.

When a friend talks and reveals ideas or feelings, he/she is expecting shared information in return. When the talk is not equal, the person talking feels as if the listener is uninterested.

In fact, the person who is always the listener is really playing the role of a counselor, not a friend. Anytime you have been talking for more than a minute or two without participation from the person you are talking to, you are lecturing, bossing, or putting that person in the role of a counselor.


Loyalty, Equality, and Respect build friendship.

Friends are equal. Without equality, you can't have a close friendship.

Friends are loyal and trustworthy. No one can confide in someone they can not trust to be loyal and to keep his/her secrets.

Friends have similar values. Our value system is so important to us that our friends' values must be close to our own or we will not have respect for this friend.
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