What does the Danish/Norwegian words "Saligheds Sag" mean?

cybershark5886 · 10-01-2006, 03:43 AM

I'm having a gosh aweful time finding out what the Danish/Norwegian words "Saligheds Sag" mean. It is used in alot of Christian religious texts and "saligheds" might mean "delight" or according to some dictionaries "salvation". I don't know what "sag" means either, because I've seen several definitions for it which seem unrelated.

An example sentance it is found in would be :"hvad den opdukkende organiserede Indre Mission angår, forekom det dem at missionsfolk med deres missionshuse var for lidt kirketro og alt for sikre i deres saligheds sag."

The last part "sikre i deres saligheds sag" I think means "safe/secure in their...seligheds sag."

Here is also a line found in a hymn: "Jesus udaf Nazaret, Den korsgaestede, min aere og min salighed skal vaere."

In some texts "saligheds sag" is capitalized as if it is introducing a concept. And it appears that "salighed" is a word by itself so is the "S" at the end possessive? Is the word "salighet" (with a T - meaning "glory") related?

Can anyone help on translation here?

La Tigrette · 10-01-2006, 10:45 PM

To me, "salighet" seems to be just the (newer) Norwegian version of the Danish "salighed", meaning "blessedness", "beatitude" and also "salvation".
"sag" means "cause", "matter" or "sake".
Concerning the "s" you are quite right about its possessive function.

As for the capitals, I don't know enough about religious concepts to tell you if you guessed correctly, but since both words are nouns, their capitalization in Danish might have the same origin as the capitalized nouns in German.

Blue Skies,
Tigrette

cybershark5886 · 10-02-2006, 03:39 PM

Thank you. That helps. Now I'll have to try to apply this to the 248 year old Christian Danish text that I'm attempting to translate. :-)

Would you be interested in double checking my first two lines of translation of the text in question?

La Tigrette · 10-02-2006, 04:07 PM

Well, I can try. However, I am actually more familiar with Norwegian, so please don't expect my perfect competence in Danish :-)

Blue Skies,
Tigrette

thstich · 10-03-2006, 03:50 PM

wouldn't this be more like "sacred mission" ?

The missionaries with their mission/church were to strong belivers and convinced of their sacred/divine mission.

cybershark5886 · 10-04-2006, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by thstich

wouldn't this be more like "sacred mission" ?

The missionaries with their mission/church were to strong belivers and convinced of their sacred/divine mission.

That's an interesting possibility. Have you read any Christian texts before that might have given you this impression?

La Tigrette · 10-04-2006, 09:17 AM

Oh, I'm sorry, did you mean me to check these two sentences?
In any case, this is what I'd make of them...

Quote:

Originally Posted by cybershark5886

"hvad den opdukkende organiserede Indre Mission angår, forekom det dem at missionsfolk med deres missionshuse var for lidt kirketro og alt for sikre i deres saligheds sag."

"Concerning the newly emerging, organised Inner Mission, to them the missionaries with their mission houses seemed too little faithful to the church and all-too sure of their sacred mission."

Quote:

Originally Posted by cybershark5886

"Jesus udaf Nazaret, Den korsgaestede, min aere og min salighed skal vaere."

[I guess your text said "den korsfæstede" ?]

"Jesus of Nazareth, the Crucified, my honnour and my salvation shall be."

Blue Skies,
Tigrette

10-01-2006, 03:43 AM	#1 (permalink)
cybershark5886 Growing Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 12 cybershark5886 is an unknown character at this point	What does the Danish/Norwegian words "Saligheds Sag" mean? I'm having a gosh aweful time finding out what the Danish/Norwegian words "Saligheds Sag" mean. It is used in alot of Christian religious texts and "saligheds" might mean "delight" or according to some dictionaries "salvation". I don't know what "sag" means either, because I've seen several definitions for it which seem unrelated. An example sentance it is found in would be :"hvad den opdukkende organiserede Indre Mission angår, forekom det dem at missionsfolk med deres missionshuse var for lidt kirketro og alt for sikre i deres saligheds sag." The last part "sikre i deres saligheds sag" I think means "safe/secure in their...seligheds sag." Here is also a line found in a hymn: "Jesus udaf Nazaret, Den korsgaestede, min aere og min salighed skal vaere." In some texts "saligheds sag" is capitalized as if it is introducing a concept. And it appears that "salighed" is a word by itself so is the "S" at the end possessive? Is the word "salighet" (with a T - meaning "glory") related? Can anyone help on translation here? Last edited by cybershark5886; 10-02-2006 at 03:43 PM.
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10-01-2006, 10:45 PM	#2 (permalink)
La Tigrette Growing Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Deutschland Posts: 41 La Tigrette is an unknown character at this point	To me, "salighet" seems to be just the (newer) Norwegian version of the Danish "salighed", meaning "blessedness", "beatitude" and also "salvation". "sag" means "cause", "matter" or "sake". Concerning the "s" you are quite right about its possessive function. As for the capitals, I don't know enough about religious concepts to tell you if you guessed correctly, but since both words are nouns, their capitalization in Danish might have the same origin as the capitalized nouns in German. Blue Skies, Tigrette __________________ Sei in jungen Jahren weise: Reise... reise! --- Paix! Joie! Amour! Fleurs!
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10-02-2006, 03:39 PM	#3 (permalink)
cybershark5886 Growing Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 12 cybershark5886 is an unknown character at this point	Thank you. That helps. Now I'll have to try to apply this to the 248 year old Christian Danish text that I'm attempting to translate. :-) Would you be interested in double checking my first two lines of translation of the text in question? Last edited by cybershark5886; 10-02-2006 at 03:43 PM.
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10-02-2006, 04:07 PM	#4 (permalink)
La Tigrette Growing Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Deutschland Posts: 41 La Tigrette is an unknown character at this point	Well, I can try. However, I am actually more familiar with Norwegian, so please don't expect my perfect competence in Danish :-) Blue Skies, Tigrette __________________ Sei in jungen Jahren weise: Reise... reise! --- Paix! Joie! Amour! Fleurs!
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10-03-2006, 03:50 PM	#5 (permalink)
thstich Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: denmark Posts: 156 thstich is learning to walk	wouldn't this be more like "sacred mission" ? The missionaries with their mission/church were to strong belivers and convinced of their sacred/divine mission. Last edited by thstich; 10-03-2006 at 03:54 PM.
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