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Old 10-05-2008, 09:53 AM   #15 (permalink)
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The reason why Chinese is perceived as a difficult language is due to its history.

Cantonese Chinese is the original form of Chinese language. However there is no such thing as "Chinese".

There is either Cantonese or Mandarin Chinese. Mandarin Chinese is the language for masses and it is far much easier to learn as compared to the traditional Cantonese Chinese.
What do you mean by "orginal form"? Do not you consider, for example, 文言文 as more orginal?

I would like to note that there are not only Mandarin and Cantonese, but there are rather more local dialects, so it is not correct to compare only two of them, even if they are the most numerous in number of their speakers.
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hımmm, our language is historicial as chinese , and one day my fathers were near the china... i mean our language historicial too, but we dont encourage it im very sad but it is that
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just don't have a pracitise!!!!just my english
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Old 02-13-2009, 07:07 AM   #18 (permalink)
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yes, it's so difficult to learn chinese. my parents moved here in the US when i was a few months old. they tried so hard to pass down their native language, but i am so slow. maybe it's really me. when i'm at school and required to do essay writing assignments, i become really confused.

to broaden my knowledge, i relied on several sites, such as Learn Chinese Characters and Chinese tattoo. shifting from one language to another is so difficult.
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Well I'm a Chinese live and grow up in Beijing, so Chinese shouldn't be difficult for me. But unfortunately, our Chinese exams always make me crazy!~ Every character may have more than one pronouciation or meaning. And when you use, you have to figure out each one. And they always give you similar characters or ambiguity words and ask you which is wrong. I really hate that!

What's more, Chinese has a long history, so it means that if you only learn contemporary Chinese, you can't fully understand dialogues. We learn old Chinese reading, and have to remember each character's meaning and useages. Many words we use today comes from old words or stories which you have to remember. And ancestors did grammar differently from nowadays, so, remember both old and new If you want to read something from HongKong or Taiwan, you also need to know Traditional Chinese.I learnt that by reading comics~

But don't worry, since China has thousands of accents(southern has more than the north), locals, especially city people, are used to strange Chinese~~~And if you learn mandarin well, you can talk with most people here(students all learn mandarin at school).
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The reason why Chinese is perceived as a difficult language is due to its history.

Cantonese Chinese is the original form of Chinese language. However there is no such thing as "Chinese".

There is either Cantonese or Mandarin Chinese. Mandarin Chinese is the language for masses and it is far much easier to learn as compared to the traditional Cantonese Chinese.
I think it should be 'classical style of writing' if you mean what the old Chinese every student learn and do in Chinese exams.
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Speech perception ......So sometimes it makes speech too difficult to perceive. For example, just one phonetic syllable "shi" (not counting difference in 5 possible tones for it, because the tones often cannot be clearly defined in fast speech) can be written with almost 70 different characters, so, figuratively saying, it may have about 70 different meanings.

Way of forming a sentence, because sometimes you can understand every character in a sentence, but still cannot understand idea of the whole sentence. Probably, the reason is a special syntax that is unusual for people, whose native languages belong to another families of languages. An additional hardship is undeveloped morphology. You may think that simple morphology makes a language easier. Yes, it does, but sometimes it raises some new problems. Sometimes a particular word in Chinese can be a subject (noun), a predicate (verb), an object, an attribute (adjective), and an adverbial modifier (adverb) at the same time (without any changes). Anyway, all words have a certain place in Chinese sentence, so you can see where any of them should be placed, but sometimes still have to guess what author meant.

Chinese characters (ºº×Ö)... Almost everybody heard about them and saw them. Undoubtedly, it is very special and difficult system of writing. People often face many problems regarding to memorization of Chinese characters (both writing or reading). But if you learn well enough, someday you will be able to read even some uknown characters. I would like to say that if you face some known character in a text it is rather easier to remember how it is read than if you need to remember how to write some character. Some people even invent original systems how to make memorization of the characters easier. And the idea of adsc's post can help some people in it. Why not?
I really don't feel I have sooooo many 'shi' to choose when I use~ There are four kind of pronounciation to separate meanings and you won't know every character in a dictionary.

As for making up a sentence, I don't know how to help you~ When I started to learn English at first, I just translated every word and make up the sentence automatically~~~reading more help every language, sense is necessary.

Guessing the pronounciation can be useful sometimes, but in exams, this often can't be used~ many character changed pronounciation as time passed, and some tend to be what you guess but actually different. So, find it up and remember it is the right way to do after your guessing.
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