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i know..i'm studying linguistics at university and i'm italian nothing to say except that is true it's a macrolanguage,but if it's like this have you looked for the other dialects?many other dialects in italy are ignored...but actually (this is not my thought,many linguists said this!),italy has a particular situation for the language cuz of the dialects: every dialect has its own history and we cannot say which one is more important.Many dialect are just more famous thanks to the spread given by the mass media..for ex (always speaking about italy) Rome dialect or Naples dialect. |
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Thanks for your opinion and nice to meet you KuzuKuzu
I agree with you and i never said Sicilian is more important than Nnapulitano or Liguru (still not recognized by Italy as well as Sicilianu). But considering the age of Sicilian language (and the one of Nnapulitano, for example) [and its unique blend of Greek, Latin, Arabic, Amazigh but also Lombardo, Francoprovençal and Catalan languages] i'm wondering why German or Albanian, for examples, are officially recognized by Italy and not Sicilianu ? German, Occitan, Albanian, Slovene, French or Slovene languages are recognized for historical reasons, and i agree with it but I think it's a mistake to refuse to acknowledge ancient languages such as Sicilianu (more than 10 million peoples speak it), Liguru or Emiglièna-Rumagnôla and, at the same time, to recognize Griko, Romani or Firulian languages.
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That's right unfortunately Siciliano,Napoletano,Friulano,Ligure, all the dialects aren't recognised in Italy as official languages.This happens because in italian, the dialect is used just in special contexts such as in the family and with the friends...so using the dialect is considered "to be rude" or sometimes "funny". If you meet with some new person u'll do ur best to don't use dialect words or expressions...even if it can sound funny. Moreover, I gotta say that this situation isn't the same for all the dialects:for ex Milanese is considered more valuable than Abruzzese!!And in general, we have to say that the North Dialects are considered nicer and noble cuz of their heritage and sound.It's a sort of racial division between North and South Italy
what can we do? Maybe this is the real reason cuz they can't be considered real languages!who knows...Last edited by KuzuKuzu; 03-05-2008 at 12:28 PM. |
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The same goes for here in US in regards to dialects on other parts of the country. In the south we think people up north sound funny as they have a East Coast dialect (a higher nasal sounding voice like in the TV show "Family Guy". Then the West Coast thinks the southern people sound "lazy" and most do! Especially in the deep south like the Carolina's. Then New Yorker's talk very fast and seem rude to most of the country. I guess it's always going to be goofy! Ja ja! ![]()
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Very interesting to learn about all those dialects of Italia!
Living abroad in the "new" continent, we often have no ideas of the linguistic situations in Europe which is totally different from here. Here, in Canada, US, Latin America, etc. We speak the language of the people who once "colonized" us. We speak the same language all over the country, with regional differentiations of course, but nothing similar to Europe. I understand your frustration Cinema, I neither like a language to be elevated to an "official" rank while the others are being forgotten... Gattopardu, is your signature in Sicilian? By the way, I know that your nick name means "cheetah", but it sounds to me as "guatto (cat) + pardu ("lost" in French, but with a big accent québécois...). Thus, "lost cat" ![]()
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