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Originally Posted by german_poster
I would like to get some intelligent responses to this question. Does God Exist? Why or why not?
I'll start off with a disproof. Can God make a rock so heavy he himself cannot lift it?
Its a paradox. What do you think?
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When we think of concepts or things, we, human beings generally try to understand them with our knowledge which is the result of our perceptions and other factors (other knowledge sources).When we ask such a question, we ask it relying on what we know(I mean our concrete experiences).For example; we cannot look for a person who is been showed on tv in the device. We know that something happens in that machine and we donot find it ridiculus.And there is a fact that everything that have art value and has lots of purposes, shows a determiner. For example when we find a letter "w" on the sands, we first think of a person who wrote it.Just like this, every animal, plant, the ecological systems they are in, serves lots of important functions.And we donot attribute a dvd player to chance but to an excellent knowledge and technology which is a result of human inheritance of knowledge.First when we look at our eyes, we see an excellent visual system which provides a vision in higher quality than all the cameras which mankind managed to produce.There are lots of evidences like this such as other organisms and organs, solar system...And all these systems work harmonously.For instance in all biological cycles, we see a system which cannot be without a Wise Designer and Owner.All the universe is needed for the existence of a fly; because all the things needed in order for fly to exist are consequences of the huge system of universe.. If we turn to your question, your sentence (Can God make a rock so heavy he himself cannot lift it?) is not a paradox.We cannot measure electricity with kilograms and Allah/God is not a human-like masculine being that sits on his throne on the sky...
(2 days later) I think that I have understood your second question insufficiently. Because I think you mean that if He can create a rock so heavy that Himself cannot lift, there are some things that he cannot create and if "He can", I answer again you could say the above sentence again.But as you probably know,
INFINITE + ANY QUANTITY = INFINITE , INFINITE HAS NO DEGREE, YOU CANNOT MEASURE IT. INFINITE DOESNOT IMPROVE, IMPROVEMENT AND DEVELOPMENT NECESSITATES DEPENDENCE TO OTHER BEINGS AND THIS WOULD BE A PARADOX, I THINK. IN THIS MODERN WORLD, WE CANNOT ACCEPT JUST A CONCRETE THINKING PARADIGM ON BEING WHICH RELY ON TWO CENTURIES OLD WRONG ASSUMPTIONS (SUCH AS ETERNITY OF MATTER AND EVOLUTIONARY PARADIGM THAT ASSUMES THE CELL JUST A WATER BAG AND ATTRIBUTES ALL BEINGS TO CHANCE) In fact all beings have a perfect structure and art that even the most clever creatures, that is , human beings cannot create just a small part of it. This fact is depicted in Qur'an in this verse
:"O people! a parable is set forth, therefore listen to it: surely those whom you call upon besides Allah cannot create fly, though they should all gather for it, and should the fly snatch away anything from them, they could not take it back from i weak are the invoker and the invoked.(Hajj (The pilgrimage)-73)