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dusio · 09-10-2007, 09:28 PM

I do agree with Nietzsche; we need to create our own values, that's for sure for me. The world will enslave us with it's own values, especially the values given by the church. Evil? We create the evil. Is there any evil in the Nature? I mean, the real evil. Not the evil which is required to survive but the evil itself? The answer is no. Ther is no other creature like human, who do LIKE to do somethin' as bad as it can be. We are the creators of evil. Just as we are the creators of god. We need God to feel more secure, more good than we really are. To hide that we are not as good as we would like to be. In some way God justify the things we do. But if we only have the opporunity to live forever and to have everything we need...Who will need God than? No-one. We are weak, that's true, so we just need a "some" vision of God to be more stronger, to feel more stronger, I should say. We need a good father to keep an eye on what we do... But we do not care about the vision itself. We do not need it to be clear at all. There is God. And we think: ok. But how many of us ask: what God? What kind of God? A God of what? The nature of God is not that important for us. And I do not believe that objective existence/ the matter could be created by something subjective. Aristotle said that existence cannot create a non-existence. So how God ( non-existence coz there is no God beside just an idea of it, and we are not sure about it at all ) could create the whole existence ( everything , and we know that it really exist, we can feel it, we can see it and so on...) If my vision is not very clear, sorry for that, but I'm a bit drunk today, so sorry one more time. Hope you are able to forgive me...

09-10-2007, 09:28 PM	#31 (permalink)
dusio Only death is certain... Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: I live in Poland Posts: 898 dusio is learning to walk	... I do agree with Nietzsche; we need to create our own values, that's for sure for me. The world will enslave us with it's own values, especially the values given by the church. Evil? We create the evil. Is there any evil in the Nature? I mean, the real evil. Not the evil which is required to survive but the evil itself? The answer is no. Ther is no other creature like human, who do LIKE to do somethin' as bad as it can be. We are the creators of evil. Just as we are the creators of god. We need God to feel more secure, more good than we really are. To hide that we are not as good as we would like to be. In some way God justify the things we do. But if we only have the opporunity to live forever and to have everything we need...Who will need God than? No-one. We are weak, that's true, so we just need a "some" vision of God to be more stronger, to feel more stronger, I should say. We need a good father to keep an eye on what we do... But we do not care about the vision itself. We do not need it to be clear at all. There is God. And we think: ok. But how many of us ask: what God? What kind of God? A God of what? The nature of God is not that important for us. And I do not believe that objective existence/ the matter could be created by something subjective. Aristotle said that existence cannot create a non-existence. So how God ( non-existence coz there is no God beside just an idea of it, and we are not sure about it at all ) could create the whole existence ( everything , and we know that it really exist, we can feel it, we can see it and so on...) If my vision is not very clear, sorry for that, but I'm a bit drunk today, so sorry one more time. Hope you are able to forgive me...
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